Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Oh god, which idiots are advocating that you beat up your mother? What the fuck?

I run into this kind of thread too often: look, if you're privileged enough to have your own personal device such as a computer or phone that allows you to post this stuff in the first place, you clearly aren't being horribly bullied and oppressed by your mother.
Everyone in here has pretty much given the worst possible answer: provoking conflict or initiating further conflict.
The first step is to try and seek therapy, either emotional therapy or family therapy along with your mother. Consider: does anyone at all except strangers on the internet (we should NOT be the people you're telling this to) know that you considered suicide? That you're this far down the road of despising your parents?
If you actually feel that your situation is so horribly untenable (and it really doesn't sound like it is, what with the whiny "my mom punished me for doing something wrong, time to kill myself"), call child services. This is, of course, the obvious way you pick who you live with. Foster care programs will accept you providing you're actually worth their time.

Preliminary emancipation isn't meant to get you away from your parents, and shouldn't be used as such.

Man, people take parents so stupidly for granted. Would you like a college education? Because they're usually the ones paying for it, and they aren't really obligated to. Would you like an inheritance? Most people would, and they aren't obligated to give that to you either.

Edit: since this seemed to pop up too: ignore people stupidly advocating that you actually run away. This would immediately brand you as the instigator and culprit, not your parents. Further, it would get the police involved, and in the meantime quite possibly leave you broke and homeless.

Originally Posted by T0ribush

Boredpayne maybe your parents are willing to pay for college, Go into family therapy, Or give you inheritance, but a hell of a lot of families aren't like yours. They aren't willing to pay for your college because most are already in massive fucking debt, They simply do not have the patience for family therapy furthermore therapy probably costs a lot of money, and don't really have anything to give except the furniture and stuff after their death.

And he's probably not using HIS computer like you probably are right now. I bet you have a cellphone too?

And this situation most likely isn't like "my mom punished me for doing something wrong, time to kill myself" It's a fuck load deeper than that. Something you probably wouldn't know and understand because you've never gone through it before. It's like she refuses to show any affection to him. I honestly don't think you relate to this situation what so ever, and is actually the complete opposite of this situation.

Your best advice Child Services.

Also he has a job, and he has a friends parent that is willing to look after him.

Don't you think it's the opposite as well? Parents take their kids for granted?

Parents? Never had 'em, Don't need 'em wouldn't want to meet them either. Abusive drunk uncle? Shit, I don't need that either, but I'm here.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Oh god, which idiots are advocating that you beat up your mother? What the fuck?

I run into this kind of thread too often: look, if you're privileged enough to have your own personal device such as a computer or phone that allows you to post this stuff in the first place, you clearly aren't being horribly bullied and oppressed by your mother.
Everyone in here has pretty much given the worst possible answer: provoking conflict or initiating further conflict.
The first step is to try and seek therapy, either emotional therapy or family therapy along with your mother. Consider: does anyone at all except strangers on the internet (we should NOT be the people you're telling this to) know that you considered suicide? That you're this far down the road of despising your parents?
If you actually feel that your situation is so horribly untenable (and it really doesn't sound like it is, what with the whiny "my mom punished me for doing something wrong, time to kill myself"), call child services. This is, of course, the obvious way you pick who you live with. Foster care programs will accept you providing you're actually worth their time.

Preliminary emancipation isn't meant to get you away from your parents, and shouldn't be used as such.

Man, people take parents so stupidly for granted. Would you like a college education? Because they're usually the ones paying for it, and they aren't really obligated to. Would you like an inheritance? Most people would, and they aren't obligated to give that to you either.

Edit: since this seemed to pop up too: ignore people stupidly advocating that you actually run away. This would immediately brand you as the instigator and culprit, not your parents. Further, it would get the police involved, and in the meantime quite possibly leave you broke and homeless.

Originally Posted by T0ribush

Boredpayne maybe your parents are willing to pay for college, Go into family therapy, Or give you inheritance, but a hell of a lot of families aren't like yours. They aren't willing to pay for your college because most are already in massive fucking debt, They simply do not have the patience for family therapy furthermore therapy probably costs a lot of money, and don't really have anything to give except the furniture and stuff after their death.

And he's probably not using HIS computer like you probably are right now. I bet you have a cellphone too?

And this situation most likely isn't like "my mom punished me for doing something wrong, time to kill myself" It's a fuck load deeper than that. Something you probably wouldn't know and understand because you've never gone through it before. It's like she refuses to show any affection to him.

I honestly don't think you relate to this situation what so ever, and is actually the complete opposite of this situation.

Your best advice Child Services.

Also he has a job, and he has a friends parent that is willing to look after him.

Don't you think it's the opposite as well? Parents take their kids for granted?

Parents? Never had 'em, Don't need 'em wouldn't want to meet them either. Abusive drunk uncle? Shit, I don't need that either, but I'm here.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

And these parents' kids have more to worry about than their mothers making them do chores. Please read on to understand vulc's probable financial position and why everything you've just said is ridiculous.
First, let me point out that in families that are struggling to make do, people at the age of 16 work. Now on to the meat of your silly argument:
1. Parents not willing to pay for college are unfit to be parents. Parents incapable of paying for college do not buy their children cars. The same goes for giving inheritance.
2. I advised him to seek therapy on his own or with his mother. If his mother is unwilling then obviously he should only seek it on his own. This kind of simple logic is implicit and I really thought the reader was capable of figuring it out on his or her own.

Did you miss the bit where vulc is 16 and has his own car?
Reading comprehension is a very, very useful skill in life.
Here, just for future reference: a family capable of providing a car and insurance for their child (the car expenses + insurance totals in the 30,000's at minimum) is at the very least middle class, probably upper middle class and beyond. You also apparently ignored the obvious fact that he has free access to the internet, a sure sign of some personal, expensive device.
I am using my own personal computer and do have a cellphone, though it is totally irrelevant. The cellphone is a 7 year old hand-me-down. I plan on receiving a newer one in a year or so, probably with a limited text/talk only plan.

My sister suffered from severe chronic depression coupled with ADHD and numerous other medical conditions, neurological and physical. I myself have been tentatively diagnosed with depression once, but I do not actually believe that it affected me in any real way.

Perhaps you shouldn't presume to know me or my life based upon a single post I make? Great, thanks.

Referencing your silly "it's a fuckload deeper than that, man!" The problem is that it really isn't. He seriously contemplated suicide because his mother got frustrated at him once and wasn't willing to listen to him immediately after he had done something he wasn't supposed to do. It really isn't that outrageous. Children love to rail against parents and believe they're out to get them, or hate them because of something insignificant in the overall scheme of the relationship.

Actually I'm not really advocating that he essentially divorces his parents forever, unless he's getting beaten or neglected to a serious degree.
In fact, it sounds like a terrible idea in this scenario.

He has no job, since he never specified one.
I laughed, too. "Hi Mrs. James, I'm running away from my evil parents, do you mind if I stay with you guys from now on?"

Play a parental role for any child and you'll see that's totally and absolutely not the case.

Lol.

Perhaps you shouldn't presume to know me or my life based upon a single post I make? Great, thanks.

Originally Posted by Vulc

Lol, did I mention she hasn't bought me a single article of clothing since i was in 8th grade? I halved the cost of my car with my dad. Bought my computer AND my phone. Oh and don't assume you know what you're talking about all the time. Maybe you're rich, but I'm not.

Lol. You really have no idea. I DO have a job, I work at ODOT.

And my friend agreed to let me stay because she knows my mom is a psycho bitch too.

And no, I've been contemplating suicide for 8 months now, so again, don't be a dumbass and assume you know everything.

Nice hypocrisy there. And by the way, my insurance is $99.16 a month and my car is paid off. So maybe your parents bought you a 2011 Mustang GT or some shit. My car costed 500 bucks.

Originally Posted by Vulc

Okay, so for some time now, my mom has come home every night and treated me like shit. She emotionally blackmails me into feeling guilty so she can sit around and I have to do chores. She works, I understand, but it was like this during summer when I worked ten hour days, too.

A few weeks ago, I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be, so she called my dad (who lives in another state) and lied to him about what happened so I would get my car taken away. So, I left and went to a friend's house. Later, I told her I'd talk to her if she'd listen. I explained to her that I was feeling worthless and that I was only around to do chores, and her exact words were "You're just saying that to get out of trouble." Now, I actually seriously thought about killing myself that night, and I just want to be away from her.

This isn't some "My mom didn't let me go somewhere, I'm moving out" thread. I'm tired of being treated like crap. I have considered emancipation, but have been told this isn't a valid reason to be emancipated. So. My friend's mom has said I could stay there, and I would be safe and well fed with them. Is there any way to petition a judge for getting away from my mom? (I live in Oregon)

Also, not trying to get pity here, I just needed to explain the situation and get intelligent answers to my question.

Originally Posted by T0ribush

Boredpayne, I know many, many, many, many kids that work in grade 8, It isn't impressive, maybe to one who hadn't started working until grade 10, 11 or 12, which judging by your wording and the use of the word "impressive" You fall under those people. I bet you get allowance? I don't think this kid does.
The legal working age is 16 or sometimes 15, usually. You're usually 13 or 14 in 8th grade. Allowance isn't a right that the child deserves.

And he's obivously not taking his parent for granted, You see? HE WANTS TO LEAVE, from what I read. That doesn't mean you take parents for granted, like at all, he doesn't want to be with his parent from what I gathered.
He is taking his parents for granted. He thinks he'd be better off without her, when really she probably does more than he thinks for him.