Those are always fun to do. I found a way to still win after the first one, and came within 300 of winning the second one, both on my first try. It shouldn't be too hard...
sorry to say this man but i ve been doing wtf suicides for a long time and i think i have just about mastered them so look at my replays. and you might think there edited but acctualla thier not. if you need proof that theese arn't edited contact hampa. ;)