right you are, in both cases, but neither is waht i'm looking for. you see, flag 16 (or 6?) is instagib itself and anti-instagib, i'm not even sure is it all-round anti-dm. and yes, i could turn DM off, but the i couldn't dm at all, i want a certain joint to be un-dm-able, or rather, i want to make a dood that can only be dm'ed from certain points.