Originally Posted by
Gorman
Although determinists say there is no free will etc, this has no impact upon the concepts of morality and ethics. Why? Because if we cannot accurately predict or analyse someone to a level that is meaningful in this regard, then it doesn't matter at all.
I know several determinist that would disagree with you on that. As you well know, there are two types of things that act as 'causes' (so to speak) in determinism; the natural causes and the willpower causes. The determinists I know argue that all the shit in your brain shooting of in directions and whatnot (scientific aren't I) are the causes that make you think things. So effectively, with the choice in options being removed by the shooting electrons or whatever, you are removing the choice between right and wrong, and thus, making the concepts of morality and ethics irrelevant. That's basically what the quote is trying to say.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
Hence it would be silly to attempt to apply a purely theoretical concept such that you can label determinists psychopaths.
I'm merely posing a question. Maybe I missed the point of your example, but I don't see how it's silly.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
Furthermore, you should be saying "does that mean all people are psychopaths", and even more than that, you should be saying something along the lines of 'if we take determinst theory as truth then...'.
Agreed, however, I thought that that went without saying. Meh, it's 1:10 AM.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
But I do think that the concept of a 'psychopath' becomes redundant when you remove ethics and morality.
Of course, but, taking into account what I elaborated on above, it's no longer removed.
Originally Posted by
Squiziph
If your presmise ( construct of your question ) is already full of holes how can my answer to only the question sufficient, you seem to think that the construct of you question was perfect and unquestionable yet it wasnt. And look at my first sentence of my first post. I did answer, you just dont like it.
My response to that is the same that you've just quoted.
Originally Posted by
Squiziph
And if i am able to destroy the presmise of amorallity that easy..
Protip: Fucking up the understanding of a concept does not make you right.
Srsly, just gtfo SuicideDo.