Originally Posted by Maya
More replies! I'm gonna close the thread relatively soon... it's mostly just bigots trying to justify their bigotry at this point. I think it would be funny if this thread got more views than the off-topic rules sticky though, so maybe we'll try for that.
As Bailey said, is a bit inmature trying to close this thread just because there's people who aren't gonna say: "Oh, i don't wanna still fighting so you're right kerchow"
Originally Posted by Maya
i'm not sure I understand this. Why wouldn't you? If it made them happy and it was no burden or harm to anyone else, why would you rip them from this more comfortable space? It seems unnecessary and mean.
I don't support identities which cause someone to be intolerant of others (or are indicative of intolerance). If it is harmful to others, there's a problem. I've never met anyone with a harmful identity though.
Maybe, 'cause it ins't really good for them talking about the reality? It's like say that i am a real stegosaurus and i wanna be called that way or i'm gonna kill someone. And don't try to say: "if isn't harm for others is right", 'cause it isn't. What happens if your friend wakes up some day saying that he/she is gonna take someone's soul?. All you're doing is affirmating Moop's question.
Originally Posted by Maya
Lmao yes, you'd be a huge racist! If I heard anyone say "I'm only attracted to white people" irl, I'd definitely call them out for being super racist. Humans are generally attracted to other humans, but skin color is outside the realm of sexuality; there can be preference, but nobody is inherently turned off by certain skin colors. Sexual preferences != sexuality. You could say "I'm generally more attracted to white people" and it would be much more accurate than saying "I'm only sexually attracted to white people" (though I feel like this may still be minor subconscious racism in some sense...).
I'll be a bit honest, i've read this and i've get a bit pissed 'cause they explained the point and you've just said the same shit again. If i say: "I'm only attracted to white people", in a "normal" way i'm referring that i know what i like and dislike or what i'm attracted to. I'm a bit black skinned men, and i'd prefer white girls than black girls (don't know if is the right way to say it, don't infract me eksdee) but that doesn't mean that i'm racist for liking one skin color than other. Tbh, i got your point, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck, talking 'bout the people presentation, BUT NO!, not liking/being attracted to Trangender people makes you a transphobe. Like others said. First, there's some transgender people who has it's birth assigned genitals so, if like vaginas and i date a girl with dick, i'm not gonna be attracted to her dick (not talking about romanticism and all that shit). Second, there's some differences from male and female anatomy, if someone likes skinny girls, isn't gonna like a semi-regular male body. Third, if we except the second point, there's people with preferences like the natural/not worked/not tattooed/etc bodies, not liking a female trans body isn't transphobic, that's like say: "i don't like the yuca frita, so i'm a yucaphobe", if you don't like it, that's it. I'm homophobic for not liking gay males?
Originally Posted by Maya
i don't know how many times I have to say this... there are tons of trans people with the same bodies as the people you're sexually attracted to. If you're into cis women... well guess what? There are lots of trans people with the bodies of cis women. Why wouldn't you be sexually attracted to those people?
Preferences, some people just don't like it, they prefer that, it's transphobic if say: "i don't like him/her for having no natural genitals, he/she is wanting to change it's image just for fun" or shit like that, not for not liking or to say it a bit more fluid, not wanting to have sex with a transgender male/female, like others said: "you can't make an absolute gender switch or transition"
Originally Posted by Maya
Just read everything I've typed in this post already. It's actually insane to me that so many dudes are defending their right to be grossed out by trans people at the same time they're begging me not to call them transphobic for it. If you're defending that position right now... I'm so sorry for offending you but you're a transphobe! Congrats, welcome to the majority.
WOW REALLY FUN M8 YOU DESERVE AN GOLD AK FOR THAT JOKE, call a "majority", which you don't really know "transphobe", ¿are you sure that you're "intolerant to intolerance"? 'Cause you just seems like a child calling everyone who try to guide him "stupid", i'm not trying to offend you but that's the case, and if trying to say your opinion is transphobic, seems like a good thing to be.
Originally Posted by Maya
And yet I have every trans person I've ever known by my side on all of these issues. Like I said... I ran this by a number of other trans people before posting it. You cannot silence or dismiss me just because I am but one voice.
this seems like you're scared of what he said, if you're trying to make the difference, don't be ultra defensive all the time, that's why some people aren't gonna stop being transphobic (< the real transphobia, not those stupid complains on this thread, like calling a transgender group "trangenders", being as i saw from your part, a little offensive with no reason), it's like the memes logics, if i made something offensive and someone gets offended, i'm gonna be happy for finishing my task, and the next one could be something worse. Just try to get your points clear and think about the other opinions to understand why these people are saying that, not calling the transphobes
Originally Posted by Maya
Like.... can you all be honest for just one second? You're either consciously or subconsciously grossed out at the idea of fucking someone who "used to be a guy" and you don't want to have to be ashamed of that. But you should be ashamed of it!ransphobia!
People have preferences, some of them are called: "normal", some are "weird", insane, safe, family friendly, etc, you can't really control what your mind is gonna prefer all the time so, if someone just has that thing in his/her mind, it could be hard for them to change it. In my case, i like vaginas, and if i date some transgender girl with vagina, i could probably like her, but some people just don't prefer it. And that's the magic of the humanity, be as weird as you like
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Originally Posted by Maya
More replies! I'm gonna close the thread relatively soon... it's mostly just bigots trying to justify their bigotry at this point. I think it would be funny if this thread got more views than the off-topic rules sticky though, so maybe we'll try for that.
"ohWoW, my thread has more views than the rules sticky, LoOK aT wHat I DoNE, Im MAkInG a DifFERENce!1!"
You're the worst. Go ahead, make another reply then close this. Silence criticism of your opinions. Dig in. Entrench yourself. Good job. Big man.
Originally Posted by Maya
They are constructs, very much not concrete in concept.
Gender is a cultural creation. Male/female (biological sex) is not. There are male ants and female ants. This is not derived from culture. This is basic, fkn, biology - Derived from objective reality.
Originally Posted by Maya
It's just about as gross a question as someone asking me what genitals I have out of the blue; the answer doesn't matter unless the context is specifically gender related.
Again, asking your mate whether that chick's a guy or a dude is a question about biological sex because PEOPLE LIKE YOU attempt to change your appearance to obfuscate that biological reality.
How is this hard?
Originally Posted by Maya
I'm not sure I understand this. Why wouldn't you? If it made them happy and it was no burden or harm to anyone else, why would you rip them from this more comfortable space? It seems unnecessary and mean.
It's just escapism. People also use drugs to escape from reality. Would I support my friend drugging themselves into a haze daily to avoid facing the reality of their situation? Absolutely not.
We have to face reality or else we're not addressing our problems - We're just avoiding them. It's addressing the symptoms of problem, not targeting the cause. The underlying 'fuckeduppedness' (I've coined this term) remains.
Originally Posted by Maya
Lmao yes, you'd be a huge racist! If I heard anyone say "I'm only attracted to white people" irl, I'd definitely call them out for being super racist. Humans are generally attracted to other humans, but skin color is outside the realm of sexuality; there can be preference, but nobody is inherently turned off by certain skin colors. Sexual preferences != sexuality. You could say "I'm generally more attracted to white people" and it would be much more accurate than saying "I'm only sexually attracted to white people" (though I feel like this may still be minor subconscious racism in some sense...).
Again, you don't understand what racism is if you think that it's racist for some to prefer to fuck one race over another. There has to be an element of prejudice. Nobody's being prejudiced by preferring to fuck people of their own race. It's legit, a natural thing.
This is the same with transphobia. Despite all your 'study' in this field, for someone to be transphobic they have to actually be prejudiced against trans people. Not wanting to fuck a transexual is not transphobic.
Honestly can't tell if you're just trolling now for more 'views' to boost your fragile ego.
Originally Posted by Maya
Good thing I'm teaching the staff (with a little help from other queer players) about transphobia! They're discussing it all and learning as we speak; I'm very proud of them all.
If anything, you're doing the trans-community a disservice by claiming to represent them and their views in the manner that you are.
You're just contributing to greater polarization. But good job tho, looks at all these views!!! In this respect, you're no better than Milo Yiannopolous. You're just a provocateur.
Originally Posted by Maya
I'm showing you the way that a progressive and tolerant person thinks about gender and transgenderism.
You're incredible (not in a flattering way).
Originally Posted by Maya
And yet I have every trans person I've ever known by my side on all of these issues. Like I said... I ran this by a number of other trans people before posting it. You cannot silence or dismiss me just because I am but one voice.
You're the one that just tried to silence/dismiss everybody by labeling us all as bigots and by threatening to close the thread, but w/e.
Also, I showed this to my trans roommate and they also think you're doing the trans-community a disservice. Not all trans people agree with you. You don't represent my roommate - Just so you know.
Really starting to believe you're just a massive attention-whoring troll. If you aren't and your intentions are pure well then, golly, you got some problems bro.
Last edited by Ele; Dec 10, 2019 at 07:21 AM.
hello Maya,
I respect what you did and that you don't mind about saying you're transgender, congratulation. (Liberty of expression yay !)
But don't think everyone is transphobic because they are not attracted by transgender, that's kinda...dumb...
I guess you're just being psycotic because medias says everywhere that everyone is being transphobic, medias are just pushing it to the extreme its comes from "i wont like to be transgender" to "i hate transgender" and that's all because medias and shit (even though some people think like the 2nd option).
Yet, i hope you're happy with your choice of life !
I respect what you did and that you don't mind about saying you're transgender, congratulation. (Liberty of expression yay !)
But don't think everyone is transphobic because they are not attracted by transgender, that's kinda...dumb...
I guess you're just being psycotic because medias says everywhere that everyone is being transphobic, medias are just pushing it to the extreme its comes from "i wont like to be transgender" to "i hate transgender" and that's all because medias and shit (even though some people think like the 2nd option).
Yet, i hope you're happy with your choice of life !
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im not attracted to trans people because being trans by itself is already a red flag
im sure there are good transgender people out there but got damn the amount of times ive seen trans people on the internet they either have problems or their attitude is insufferable. same with people who have pronouns in their bio and shit
also is it really that crazy to not be attracted to trans people because of their true biological sex i mean in the end it is simply a natural thing
just my 2 cents please dont report me
im sure there are good transgender people out there but got damn the amount of times ive seen trans people on the internet they either have problems or their attitude is insufferable. same with people who have pronouns in their bio and shit
also is it really that crazy to not be attracted to trans people because of their true biological sex i mean in the end it is simply a natural thing
just my 2 cents please dont report me
Originally Posted by basic
im not attracted to trans people because being trans by itself is already a red flag
im sure there are good transgender people out there but got damn the amount of times ive seen trans people on the internet they either have problems or their attitude is insufferable. same with people who have pronouns in their bio and shit
also is it really that crazy to not be attracted to trans people because of their true biological sex i mean in the end it is simply a natural thing
just my 2 cents please dont report me
some trans people on the internet are actually fucking insane (you seen the state of that one tumblr page?)
also its fine to have preferences, and preferring to date cis people seriously doesnt seem like an issue
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